"Adult supervision"

Bound, Jim Jim.Bound at hp.com
Wed May 7 09:40:31 CEST 2003


I agree.
/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edward Lewis [mailto:edlewis at arin.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 5:12 PM
> To: problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: "Adult supervision"
> 
> 
> >After you've debated something in depth a dozen or more 
> times it starts 
> >to get old.
> 
> It get's old for the one who has repeated the argument 12+ times. 
> But that's no excuse for refusing to fully explain yourself to the 
> 13th+ person making the same mistake and hearing the argument for the
> very first time.
> 
> If you are tired of repeating the argument, document it clearly and 
> offer it as a reference to the person repeating history.  If you fail 
> to impart knowledge to the next generation and instead treat them 
> with disdain for not being as smart as you, you are not helping.
> 
> >Should IESG members really have to debate with each
> >document author or working group chair (for instance) 
> whether it's okay to
> >assume that a device or server will only be accessible from 
> a local, trusted
> >network and that therefore no authentication is needed?
> 
> The IESG shouldn't have to debate, no, but they should offer 
> constructive criticism and instruction in each case.  If we expect 
> that every one in the IETF needs no mentoring, sooner or later there 
> will be no new folks, dooming the organization in the long run.
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