My thoughts about the problems of the IETF

[Jonne.Soininen at nokia.com]

Hi Brian, and Spencer,

I tend to agree with Spencer. The minutes of 91 are excellent. There you see the position of the individuals, and the summary of the discussion. 98 on the other hand is just plain terrible. And 2003 is at least better than IESG minutes, but could have more about the actual discussions.

BTW Brian, thanks for reminding about the IAB minutes. I think it is a while when I have looked at the minutes, and that time they must have been the "compressed" ones... 

Cheers,

Jonne.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Spencer Dawkins [mailto:spencer_dawkins at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 7:27 AM
> To: Brian E Carpenter; Soininen Jonne (NET/MtView)
> Cc: problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: My thoughts about the problems of the IETF
> 
> 
> Well, while we're trying to read Jonne's mind, may I chime in?
> 
> I took Brian's pointer to look at some 1991 IAB minutes, and
> thought they looked GREAT. (Specifically,
> http://www.iab.org/IABmins/IABmins.1991-01-08.arch.html)
> 
> I looked at some 1998 minutes, and they looked like IESG minutes
> :-{. (Specifically,
> http://www.iab.org/IABmins/IABmins.1998-01-20.html).
> 
> I liked the most recent minutes
> (http://www.iab.org/IABmins/IABmins.2003-03-18.html) better than
> the 1998 minutes, but not as much as the 1991 minutes.
> 
> I've never discussed an IAB meeting with any IAB member, but the
> trend in minutes looks like IAB moved from discussing ideas to
> discussing documents. I trust that's not true - but you can't
> tell it from the minutes!
> 
> Spencer, who will be reading through the archive, because I'm
> learning a lot from what I'm reading there...
> 
> --- Brian E Carpenter <brian at hursley.ibm.com> wrote:
> > What do you think about recent IAB minutes, as far as the
> > level of
> > detail goes?
> > 
> > Historically, IAB minutes have varied between very detailed
> > (e.g. 1991)
> > and very brief (e.g. 1998); but recently they have been
> > somewhere 
> > in the middle.
> > 
> > http://www.iab.org/IABmins/index.html
> > 
> >    Brian
>