"Adult supervision"

Bound, Jim Jim.Bound at hp.com
Mon May 5 23:19:22 CEST 2003


I agree.  In addiiton quip phrases like this just piss people off and
that is part of why there is some bashing too.  
/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles E. Perkins [mailto:charliep at IPRG.nokia.com] 
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:58 PM
> To: problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Cc: harald at alvestrand.no
> Subject: "Adult supervision"
> 
> 
> 
> Hello folks,
> 
> It seems to me that whenever these words are used
> by an IESG member with respect to the needs of a
> working group, it highlights a serious problem in
> the attitude of the IESG member.  The imagery of
> irresponsible children running amok and inflicting
> damage to the Internet sets up an expectation of
> conflict that is counter to the sort of cooperative
> proceedings that (I think) should be our goal.
> 
> An IESG member, starting with the attitude of an
> exasperated parent, can expect to encounter many
> barriers preventing productive engagement with the
> working group members.
> 
> If a whole working group is doing something that
> would deserve such a characterization, then there
> should be some document somewhere that the IESG member
> can suggest for the working group members to study.
> That document should be made available at a very
> early stage in the history of the working group.
> I expect that the working group members would almost
> always take a constructive approach, once the
> technical aspects of the document are digested and
> understood.
> 
> Then we might have "constructive engagement" instead of
> "adult supervision", and progress instead of bitterness.
> 
> Regards,
> Charlie P.
> 


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