Fixed font v multiple fonts

[todd glassey]

James - the problem is that a consensus doesn't exist in the IETF. A
consensus is based on a concept of a number of people actually being able to
vote on something and that doesn't exist here. What does exist here is a
concept of micro-special interest groups that come together to specifically
advance **their** initiatives at the expense and to stop all others that
would  compete with them. If you doubt this do a work flow analysis on
RFC2026, RFC2223, and RFC2418 as it pertains to the standards track
processes.

What you will find is that you are clearly wrong here, and that also is one
of the problems with the IETF. What I am saying is that in the current
system any group of people declaring themselves the majority first are
accorded that.

Today the mighty win always in the IETF, but this too ***is*** going to
change.

Todd Glassey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Seng" <jseng at pobox.org.sg>
To: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker at verisign.com>
Cc: <problem-statement at alvestrand.no>; "Keith Moore" <moore at cs.utk.edu>;
"'Lars-Erik Jonsson (LU/EAB)'" <lars-erik.jonsson at ericsson.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: Fixed font v multiple fonts


> I guess when the rough consensus is not going your way, it is "top-down
> decision". Hello??
>
> Lars have his rights to his opinion as much as you do.
>
> -James Seng
>
> > I have never spent half as much time getting a document format right as
I
> > have for the IETF. Even the W3C rules for HTML are not as much hassle.
> >
> > Again, the issue is who gets to decide.
>
>