Individually-submitted proposed RFCs (was: Re: what is a problem)

[John C Klensin]

--On Tuesday, 26 November, 2002 14:27 +0100 Patrik F=E4ltstr=F6m
<paf@cisco.com> wrote:

> On tisdag, nov 26, 2002, at 13:50 Europe/Stockholm, John C
> Klensin wrote:
>=20
>> So don't tell me that one can submit documents to the RFC
>> Editor and that (soon) starts a timeout.  From the RFC
>> Editor's standpoint, the IESG has fixed that path so that it
>> does not produce anything resembling a timely response.
>=20
> Obviously this is something we have to discuss ASAP. My
> personal view of the process differs significantly from the
> view of the RFC-Editor. I must have missed when "IESG fixed
> the path".
>...
> Regardless what the problem is, this needs to be resolved.
> First (I think) by more talk between IESG and RFC-Editor _and_
> resolution of the issues we are aware about internally in the
> IESG.

Yes.

I would also note that having to drag the entire IETF into these
issues is fairly inefficient.  Also, if the RFC Editor merely
misunderstood, e.g., an offhand comment as representing a firm
IESG position, it should have been possible to get that
straightened out months ago.  I've tried to get people to put a
clarification of the intent in this area (whatever it is) on the
agenda of two consecutive "RFC Editor lunch" meetings, with no
evidence of any success in doing so.  I guess the lunches have
just gotten too fine for serious discussions :-(

     john