Kent Karlsson kent.karlsson14 at
Sat Jan 7 18:57:24 CET 2017

(My comment in italic below)

Den 2017-01-07 17:58, skrev "John Cowan" <cowan at>:

> On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Kent Karlsson <kent.karlsson14 at>
> wrote:
>> Looking at the current Filipino CLDR locale data, it is actually a
>> "fil+en+es" mix.
> That's pretty much what Tagalog/Filipino actually is: like English, it is
> stuffed full of
> loanwords. 

Loan words are common in many languages, yes. But the Filipino CLDR locale
data has (e.g.)
"light year", whereas the Tagalog/Filipino Wikipedia page has "sinag-taon",
and the "light year"
in the locale data does not even appear to be adapted to the "matrix

Same for "astronomical unit" (in CLDR/Filipino), but Tagalog/Filipino
Wikipedia has
"yunit na astronomikal"/"astronomikal na yunit". The former is clearly
English, whereas
the two latter are clearly Filipino using loan words.

So I would still say that the current Filipino CLDR data is a mix with
English, not just
(heavy) use of loan words.

/Kent K

>  It's been estimated that 40% of words used in ordinary conversations
> are of Spanish origin (some of them in fact Nahuatl, from the days when the
> Philippines
> were governed from Mexico City).  There are also many words of Malay, English,
> and
> more miscellaneous origins.  But English is not a mixed language even though
> it has
> only about 1800 surviving native roots: it is what it is, an extreme case of a
> West
> Germanic language.
> -- 
> John Cowan        cowan at
> Female celebrity stalker, on a hot morning in Cairo:
> "Imagine, Colonel Lawrence, ninety-two already!"
> El Auruns's reply:  "Many happy returns of the day!"

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