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Den 2017-01-07 17:58, skrev "John Cowan" <<a href="cowan@ccil.org">cowan@ccil.org</a>>:<BR>
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On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Kent Karlsson <<a href="kent.karlsson14@telia.com">kent.karlsson14@telia.com</a>> wrote:<BR>
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"fil+en+es" mix.<BR>
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That's pretty much what Tagalog/Filipino actually is: like English, it is stuffed full of<BR>
loanwords. <BR>
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<I>Loan words are common in many languages, yes. But the Filipino CLDR locale data has (e.g.)<BR>
"<B>light year</B>", whereas the Tagalog/Filipino Wikipedia page has "<B>sinag-taon</B>", and the "light year"<BR>
in the locale data does not even appear to be adapted to the "matrix language".<BR>
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</B>Same for "<B>astronomical unit</B>" (in CLDR/Filipino), but Tagalog/Filipino Wikipedia has<BR>
"<B>yunit na astronomikal</B>"/"<B>astronomikal na yunit</B>". The former is clearly English, whereas<BR>
the two latter are clearly Filipino using loan words.<BR>
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So I would still say that the current Filipino CLDR data is a mix with English, not just<BR>
(heavy) use of loan words.<BR>
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/Kent K<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'> It's been estimated that 40% of words used in ordinary conversations<BR>
are of Spanish origin (some of them in fact Nahuatl, from the days when the Philippines<BR>
were governed from Mexico City). There are also many words of Malay, English, and<BR>
more miscellaneous origins. But English is not a mixed language even though it has<BR>
only about 1800 surviving native roots: it is what it is, an extreme case of a West<BR>
Germanic language.<BR>
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John Cowan <a href="http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan">http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan</a> <a href="cowan@ccil.org">cowan@ccil.org</a><BR>
Female celebrity stalker, on a hot morning in Cairo:<BR>
"Imagine, Colonel Lawrence, ninety-two already!"<BR>
El Auruns's reply: "Many happy returns of the day!"<BR>
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