Record for Spanglish variant

[Doug Ewell]

My problem with this is that, for purposes of identifying a given Spanglish text, it
(a) may not be feasible to determine, and
(b) probably is not relevant
which is the matrix language and which is embedded. Thus we require the tag consumer to care about a distinction that he would not otherwise care about.

--Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org
-------- Original message --------From: Avram Lyon <ajlyon at gmail.com> Date: 1/5/17  14:25  (GMT-06:00) To: lucp at skopos.be, Doug Ewell <doug at ewellic.org>, ietf-languages <ietf-languages at iana.org> Subject: Re: Record for Spanglish variant 
> I seem to recall a proposal that, below the "official" part, had a casual comment to the effect that it is left to the judgment of the tagger whether to use the "en" or "es" prefix, depending on the "dominant" language.

When I was doing linguistics work, the relevant term was the matrix language ("dominant") and the "embedded" language (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code-switching#Matrix_language-frame_model, but also in the literature). In the case of tagging, I believe we are recommending that the prefix be the matrix language of the material being tagged.
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 12:15 PM Luc Pardon <lucp at skopos.be> wrote:
I seem to recall a proposal that, below the "official" part, had a

casual comment to the effect that it is left to the judgment of the

tagger whether to use the "en" or "es" prefix, depending on the

"dominant" language.



I think that remark is important enough to make it into the repository,

as a guideline to users of this tag.



Luc



On 04-01-17 21:09, Doug Ewell wrote:

> Here is the record for Michael's proposed 'spanglis' variant.

>

> I'm posting this as Co-Designated Expert, or what John Cowan would call

> "Official Doug," not necessarily as a proponent of the subtag. My

> personal opinion is that we need more time to evaluate the best solution

> to this problem before anything is registered, either here or in CLDR.

>

> --

>

> LANGUAGE SUBTAG MODIFICATION

> File-Date: 2017-xx-xx

> %%

> Type: variant

> Subtag: spanglis

> Description: Spanglish

> Prefix: en

> Prefix: es

> Comments: Name given to a variety of contact dialects of English and

>   Spanish

> %%

>

>

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