CE Whitehead cewcathar at
Wed Jan 23 01:11:07 CET 2008

I agree that this variant tag [erzgeb] with hte prefix [de] is appropriate.
--C. E. Whitehead
cewcathar at
Karen Broome wrote:> As this variant is listed as being a dialect of "de" on Ethnologue, I support this proposal and do 
> not see much controversy with this request.  As Doug mentions, the script tag needs to be 
> removed as that's assigned on a higher level. (I'll admit that I steered Thomas wrong here.)  
> A region tag would not work here, so a variant tag is required. > I've had discussions with Thomas offline and I'm quite convinced this is a legitimate request with > a real-world application. Unlike "ortograf," this is not requested for the purpose of promoting a 
> recently developed orthography -- it's allowing a widely recognized dialect distinction on a 
> language with considerable history.   > Regards, > Karen Broome> Metadata Systems Designer> Sony Pictures Entertainment> 310.244.4384 ietf-languages-bounces at wrote on 01/20/2008 01:11:26 PM:> LANGUAGE SUBTAG REQUEST FORM> > 1. Name of requester:  Thomas Goldammer> 2. E-mail address of requester:  thogol at> 3. Record Requested:> > Type: Variant> Subtag: erzgeb> Description: Erzgebirgisch> Prefix: de> Preferred-Value:> Deprecated:> Suppress-Script: Latin> Comments:> > 4. Intended meaning of the subtag:> > Erzgebirgisch is a German dialect belonging to> the Upper German branch. Full to nearly full> intelligibility is given within all Erzgebirgisch> varieties, with Vogtla"ndisch and with the> northeasternmost local varieties of Eastern Fra"nkisch.> Erzgebirgisch shares a lot of features with its main> contact dialects, North Bavarian and Upper Saxon.> > Erzgebirgisch itself is divided into three main> varieties. Eastern Erzgebirgisch shows much more> influence of Upper Saxon and covers the easternmost> language area as well as the whole northern part, thus> the complete contact zone to Upper Saxon. Western> Erzgebirgisch is spoken from Annaberg-Buchholz in the> east to Scho"nheide (erzg. Schiehaad) in the west where> it goes over to Vogtla"ndisch. The variety in the Harz> mountains shows several influences by neighboring> Lower German languages.> > There is a tradition in writing at least since the> 18th century, but there is not yet a fixed> orthography. Most writers adapt the Standard German> orthography.> > 5. Reference to published description of the language> (book or article):> > Borchers, Erich, 1929. Sprach- und Gru"ndungsgeschichte> der erzgebirgischen Kolonie im Oberharz. [Language and> Founding History of the Erzgebirgisch Colony in the> Upper Harz.] Marburg: Elwert'sche Verlagsbuchhandlung.> (grammar notes with some old texts from the 18th century)> > Susanka, Irmtraud, (ca. 1981). Wie mir drham geredt> homm. Unsere Mundart im Bezirke Kaaden-Duppau. [How we> have talked at home. (erzg.) Our dialect in the> district of Kaaden-Duppau. (German)] Bayreuth: Verlag> des Kaadner Heimatbriefs. (a collection of phrases,> idioms and words)> > 6. Any other relevant information:> > This tag is requested for the localization of> MediaWiki into this dialect.> > --------> > Please feel free to contact me if you need further information.> > Best regards,> Thomas Goldammer.> _______________________________________________> Ietf-languages mailing list> Ietf-languages at>> 
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