Proposal to add "Kore' as Suppress-Script for 'ko'

CE Whitehead cewcathar at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 11 16:38:51 CEST 2007



Mark Davis mark.davis at icu-project.org
wrote:

>It of course *does* sense to say ko-Hani or ko-Hang, just as it makes sense 
>to say ja-Kana, ja-Hira, or ja-Hang. And in specialized cases one could use 
>these, just as in specialized cases one can distinguish ru-RU from 
>ru-Cyrl-RU from ru-Latn-RU (in transliteration). But for normal purposes 
>one does not need to mention a script with ko.


My only question is are we going to cut off a specific group of users of 
Korean??  Or a specific region?

(I must say I do not know enough about Asian orthographies, however, but as 
best as I can make out,  the Japanese script tags do have any connection to 
a region or, anymore, to a group of users.)

Please update me as far as the Korean usage goes--whether the characters 
used are tied to specific groups of users.


Michael Everson everson at evertype.com
Wed Jul 11 09:38:02 CEST 2007

wrote:

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>At 22:56 -0700 2007-07-10, Doug Ewell wrote:

>>The North Korean national character encoding, KPS 9566-97, includes 4,653 
>>Hanja, or more than half the total number of encoded characters. Then 
>>again, it also includes Latin, Greek, Cyrillic, kana, and a fair number of 
>>dingbats.
>
>>I'm willing to withdraw this request if people think it is not 
>>appropriate.

>I think it's wrong. Kore is an alias for two scripts. This Suppress-Script 
>thing, how is it to know that a paragraph in Chinese with three words in 
>Hangul in the middle isn't really Chinese and not Korean? Kore makes sense 
>from the point of view of ISO 15924, but not, I think, in terms of the 
>automated stuff Suppress-Script is supposed to do.

>I could be wrong. But my impression is that this request is unsafe.
--
>Michael Everson


I do not know about politics; but we do not want to discriminate against any 
variety of writing, whoever uses it; if we cannot establish that the same 
set of characters
are in use in all places where people write Korean, then I guess we cannot 
have a suppress-script tag for this language.

(Ah Doug, you should have warned us about your efforts to compare the 
characters in use in the two countries when you first proposed this change 
to the subtag.)

--C. E. Whitehead
cewcathar at hotmail.com

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