LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM: Eastern Armenian

[Peter Constable]

I'm wondering what the expectation is here. It seems to me that the tags
are machine-readable symbols and are not intended for presentation in
UI. 0x0061 isn't meaningful to an English speaker, but it's not meant to
be: it's a coded representation of "a". Similarly, "hy-western" is to be
a coded representation for certain information, and it's that
information that is intended to be meaningful to Armenian speakers, not
the coded representation.


Peter Constable


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no [mailto:ietf-languages-
> bounces at alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Don Osborn
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 9:03 AM
> To: 'Mark Davis'; 'Frank Ellermann'
> Cc: ietf-languages at alvestrand.no
> Subject: RE: LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM: Eastern Armenian
> 
> Hi Mark, I think that if there's a difference it might be: (1) that a
character in a script
> might be used in more than one language, and to switch in and out of
languages in a
> list of descriptors for characters could be problematic; and (2) more
importantly the
> user of a tag for a particular language would be expected to be
familiar with a
> tag/designation in that language (or recognizably abbreviated or
transcribed from that
> language).
> 
> Just exploring what this means or might mean. Personally I have no
stake in this, but
> wonder about the principle and precedent.
> 
> Here's another angle. If Armenian subtags are used in this case, will
the choice
> facilitate or prejudice / lead to problems in later choice of alpha-4
tags for these
> subdivisions of Armenian in ISO-639-6? But maybe that's looking ahead
too far...
> 
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no [mailto:ietf-languages-
> bounces at alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Mark Davis
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:43 AM
> To: Frank Ellermann
> Cc: ietf-languages at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: LANGUAGE SUBTAG REGISTRATION FORM: Eastern Armenian
> 
> Just because subtags *designate* a particuarly entity, doesn't mean
they have to be
> written "in" that entity. The character names in ISO
> 10646 and Unicode illustrate that point: just one of thousands of
examples is U+060D
> ARABIC DATE SEPARATOR: the words "ARABIC", "DATA"
> and "SEPARATOR" are not in Arabic.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On 9/1/06, Frank Ellermann <nobody at xyzzy.claranet.de> wrote:
> > Don Osborn wrote:
> >
> > > 1) If the subtags are specific to the Armenian language, why are
> > > they in English?
> >
> > It's required to be 5..8 ASCII letters or digits (or 4 if it starts
> > with a digit).  One transliteration (I hope that's the correct term,
> > please correct me) of the Armenian word for "western" has 10
> > characters including an apostrophe.  The word for "west" would fit.
I
> > forgot the details for "eastern".
> > IMHO these two variant subtags should be consistent.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
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