(iso639.1574) New ISO 639 language identifier - Klingon

Tex Texin tex at XenCraft.com
Wed Feb 25 08:49:16 CET 2004


ugh. Is anyone bothered by the fact that we will now have a registered
identifier for a language that we have decided not to encode in Unicode? We can
represent it transliterated but not its "native" script. If Klingon is
transliterated into more than one script, it will be difficult to do searches
etc. (Ah, I feel a spec for Klingon Normalization forms coming on...)

tex

"Addison Phillips [wM]" wrote:
> 
> According to the rules in place in RFC3066 (not bis), as I understand them,
> the tag 'i-klingon' will never be *deleted*, only deprected with a reference
> to 'tlh'. There are several such deprecated tags already in the IANA
> registry. In fact, note that rfc3066bis strongly encourages languages to
> register with ISO639 before trying to register subtag values (which might
> later be deprecated) in the IANA registry, so that there will be fewer
> occurrences of this in the future (one hopes).
> 
> I was asking because i-klingon is an example of a grandfathered value and
> Mark and I used it as an example in at least two places in draft-*-01.
> 
> Addison
> 
> Addison P. Phillips
> Director, Globalization Architecture
> webMethods | Delivering Global Business Visibility
> http://www.webMethods.com
> Chair, W3C Internationalization (I18N) Working Group
> Chair, W3C-I18N-WG, Web Services Task Force
> http://www.w3.org/International
> 
> Internationalization is an architecture.
> It is not a feature.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Ksar [mailto:mikeksar at microsoft.com]
> > Sent: lundi 23 fevrier 2004 17:00
> > To: aphillips at webmethods.com; Michael Everson
> > Cc: IETF-languages list
> > Subject: RE: (iso639.1574) New ISO 639 language identifier - Klingon
> >
> >
> > It is not clear whether i-klingon will be deprecated.  Theoretically,
> > there might be data out there that uses it and thus there might be a
> > need to have an alias mechanism within 3066 bis.
> >
> > Mike Ksar
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no
> > [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Addison
> > Phillips [wM]
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 4:43 PM
> > To: Michael Everson
> > Cc: IETF-languages list
> > Subject: RE: (iso639.1574) New ISO 639 language identifier - Klingon
> >
> > This means that i-klingon will shortly be deprecated in the IANA
> > registry,
> > right?
> >
> > Addison P. Phillips
> > Director, Globalization Architecture
> > webMethods | Delivering Global Business Visibility
> > http://www.webMethods.com
> > Chair, W3C Internationalization (I18N) Working Group
> > Chair, W3C-I18N-WG, Web Services Task Force
> > http://www.w3.org/International
> >
> > Internationalization is an architecture.
> > It is not a feature.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no
> > > [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no]On Behalf Of Michael
> > > Everson
> > > Sent: lundi 23 fevrier 2004 15:38
> > > To: havard at hjulstad.com
> > > Cc: ISO639-2 list; IETF-languages list; KLI at klingonguy.com; ISO639 JAC
> > > list; LangTag (Unicode); KLI at kli.org; ISO639 list
> > > Subject: Re: (iso639.1574) New ISO 639 language identifier - Klingon
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think there is a hyphen in tlhIngan Hol.
> > > --
> > > Michael Everson * * Everson Typography *  * http://www.evertype.com
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