consensus Call: TATWEEL
mark at macchiato.com
Wed Mar 25 15:57:21 CET 2009
I agree with Erik. At first I too thought that mapping it away would be the
right thing, but prohibition would avoid the ambiguous target problem.
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 06:52, Erik van der Poel <erikv at google.com> wrote:
> I'd like to elaborate a little bit on my position on Tatweel, given
> the email below, and the discussions about mapping yesterday.
> Although mapping Tatweel to "nothing" (i.e. deleting) is certainly one
> of the alternatives, I think we should consider simply disallowing
> Tatweel. The reason is as follows.
> If we map Tatweel to nothing, IDNA2003 apps and new apps will try to
> resolve different domain names. E.g. old and new browsers will go to
> different places.
> If we disallow Tatweel in the input to the mapping function (or map
> Tatweel to Tatweel and then prohibit Tatweel in the input to the
> Punycode function), new apps will simply fail to lookup the domain
> name. This would eventually encourage e.g. HTML file maintainers to
> remove Tatweels from domain names in hrefs and the like.
> 2009/3/25 Waleed Oransa <woransa at gmail.com>:
> > I vote with Yes for disallow Tatweel
> > and if possible a recommendation that browsers removed the Tatweel from
> > domain name and then send it without it.
> > So if Tatweel is used as in the following: الجــــزيرة .. it should be
> > changed to الجزيرة automatically by the browser.
> > The reason for disallowing Tatweel (beside what already mentioned by
> > that Tatweel has no phonetic, so if we have a word that doesn't
> > contain Tatweel and another one contains Tatweel, both words will have
> > same pronunciation.
> > Waleed Oransa
> > IBM Egypt
> > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Harald Alvestrand <harald at alvestrand.no
> > wrote:
> >> YES (ie make it DISALLOWED)
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