Apostrophe (was Re: Names)
Patrik Fältström
patrik at frobbit.se
Mon Mar 23 19:05:07 CET 2009
Related to my previous message about U+2019 and U+0027. People do not
know/see the difference.
Patrik
On 23 mar 2009, at 10.03, Mark Davis wrote:
> Why would a script care about U+2019, any more than any other non-
> ASCII
> character?
>
> Mark
>
>
> 2009/3/23 Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se>
>
>> I can think of many cases where the apostrophe and other characters
>> are
>> part of domain names given back when looking up PTR records in DNS,
>> the
>> hostname gets added to a logfile (as a U-label) and then later
>> parsed by a
>> script.
>>
>> Patrik
>>
>>
>> On 20 mar 2009, at 09.44, Vint Cerf wrote:
>>
>> I am not aware of any, Mark, but perhaps others are?
>>>
>>> Vint Cerf
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
>>>
>>> Have there been any problems with apostrophe (U+2019) since
>>> IDNA2003 was
>>>> deployed, or can you spell out a scenario where an apostrophe
>>>> would cause a
>>>> problem?
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/3/20 Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se>
>>>> On 19 mar 2009, at 21.31, Mark Davis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There has been no uproar about
>>>> the fact that IDNA2008 disables many, many names in English
>>>> (especially
>>>> Irish), French, Italian, and others. For example, all of the
>>>> following
>>>> are
>>>> currently allowed in IDNA, but would be disallowed under IDNA2008.
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, allowing anything that looks like (yes, I use that non-
>>>> specific
>>>> phrase very intentional) a character that is dangerous in
>>>> scripting is and
>>>> was when IDNA2003 was created a very very very bad idea. I do not
>>>> think many
>>>> people see the difference between ’ and ', and allowing such
>>>> characters and
>>>> %, !, $, * etc is something I would say is a bad idea. Very bad
>>>> idea. Not
>>>> everyone can have "their name" as a domain name. Because domain
>>>> names are
>>>> domain names, and not words and names.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I see your point regarding already registered domain
>>>> names.
>>>> Same thing for domain names that include arrows, snowman etc.
>>>>
>>>> Patrik
>>>>
>>>>
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