Apostrophe (was Re: Names)

Mark Davis mark at macchiato.com
Mon Mar 23 18:59:55 CET 2009


That may or may not be a reason for a registrant to decide it isn't worth
registering, but not a protocol problem.

Mark


2009/3/23 Erik van der Poel <erikv at google.com>

> I'd be more concerned about the "side of the bus" issue. If there is
> an ad for aujourd'hui.fr on the side of a bus, and a user tried to
> type that on a French keyboard (or an American tourist's laptop),
> would a typical app assume U+0027 or U+2019?
>
> Erik
>
> 2009/3/23 Mark Davis <mark at macchiato.com>:
> > Why would a script care about U+2019, any more than any other non-ASCII
> > character?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > 2009/3/23 Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se>
> >>
> >> I can think of many cases where the apostrophe and other characters are
> >> part of domain names given back when looking up PTR records in DNS, the
> >> hostname gets added to a logfile (as a U-label) and then later parsed by
> a
> >> script.
> >>
> >>   Patrik
> >>
> >> On 20 mar 2009, at 09.44, Vint Cerf wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am not aware of any, Mark, but perhaps others are?
> >>>
> >>> Vint Cerf
> >>> Google
> >>> 1818 Library Street, Suite 400
> >>> Reston, VA 20190
> >>> 202-370-5637
> >>> vint at google.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 20, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Have there been any problems with apostrophe (U+2019) since IDNA2003
> was
> >>>> deployed, or can you spell out a scenario where an apostrophe would
> cause a
> >>>> problem?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2009/3/20 Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se>
> >>>> On 19 mar 2009, at 21.31, Mark Davis wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> There has been no uproar about
> >>>> the fact that IDNA2008 disables many, many names in English
> (especially
> >>>> Irish), French, Italian, and others. For example, all of the following
> >>>> are
> >>>> currently allowed in IDNA, but would be disallowed under IDNA2008.
> >>>>
> >>>> FWIW, allowing anything that looks like (yes, I use that non-specific
> >>>> phrase very intentional) a character that is dangerous in scripting is
> and
> >>>> was when IDNA2003 was created a very very very bad idea. I do not
> think many
> >>>> people see the difference between ’ and ', and allowing such
> characters and
> >>>> %, !, $, * etc is something I would say is a bad idea. Very bad idea.
> Not
> >>>> everyone can have "their name" as a domain name. Because domain names
> are
> >>>> domain names, and not words and names.
> >>>>
> >>>> That said, I see your point regarding already registered domain names.
> >>>> Same thing for domain names that include arrows, snowman etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Patrik
> >>>>
> >>>>
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