Apostrophe (was Re: Names)

Mark Davis mark at macchiato.com
Mon Mar 23 19:21:01 CET 2009


Well, many people don't, but many people do know the difference between a
curly apostrophe and the typewriter (ASCII) one. And the curly one doesn't
cause a problem in scripting, so there isn't a good reason to remove it from
IDNA.

Mark


2009/3/23 Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se>

> Related to my previous message about U+2019 and U+0027. People do not
> know/see the difference.
>
>   Patrik
>
>
> On 23 mar 2009, at 10.03, Mark Davis wrote:
>
>  Why would a script care about U+2019, any more than any other non-ASCII
>> character?
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>> 2009/3/23 Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se>
>>
>>  I can think of many cases where the apostrophe and other characters are
>>> part of domain names given back when looking up PTR records in DNS, the
>>> hostname gets added to a logfile (as a U-label) and then later parsed by
>>> a
>>> script.
>>>
>>>  Patrik
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20 mar 2009, at 09.44, Vint Cerf wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not aware of any, Mark, but perhaps others are?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Vint Cerf
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>>>> 202-370-5637
>>>> vint at google.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 20, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Mark Davis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Have there been any problems with apostrophe (U+2019) since IDNA2003 was
>>>>
>>>>> deployed, or can you spell out a scenario where an apostrophe would
>>>>> cause a
>>>>> problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/3/20 Patrik Fältström <patrik at frobbit.se>
>>>>> On 19 mar 2009, at 21.31, Mark Davis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There has been no uproar about
>>>>> the fact that IDNA2008 disables many, many names in English (especially
>>>>> Irish), French, Italian, and others. For example, all of the following
>>>>> are
>>>>> currently allowed in IDNA, but would be disallowed under IDNA2008.
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, allowing anything that looks like (yes, I use that non-specific
>>>>> phrase very intentional) a character that is dangerous in scripting is
>>>>> and
>>>>> was when IDNA2003 was created a very very very bad idea. I do not think
>>>>> many
>>>>> people see the difference between ’ and ', and allowing such characters
>>>>> and
>>>>> %, !, $, * etc is something I would say is a bad idea. Very bad idea.
>>>>> Not
>>>>> everyone can have "their name" as a domain name. Because domain names
>>>>> are
>>>>> domain names, and not words and names.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, I see your point regarding already registered domain names.
>>>>> Same thing for domain names that include arrows, snowman etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patrik
>>>>>
>>>>>
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