[R-C] Charter -> congestion avoidance vs. congestion control?

[Michael Welzl]

Hi,

That request seems easy to accommodate, and if it avoids misunderstandings then that's good.
Thanks for your input!

Cheers,
Michael

PS: I hope I'll have a charter update + the meeting minutes available soon; stay tuned...


On 6. aug. 2012, at 14:47, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> one more comment regarding the charter. I was wondering if there is a 
> difference between congestion avoidance and congestion control. I would say 
> congestion avoidance is the more general term, while congestion control 
> implies some kind of control loop. 
> 
> In case of real-time media traffic, as we have specific traffic 
> characteristics, we might end up with something that e.g. only switches 
> between certain pre-defined rate depending on feedback that we maybe get 
> (only) once per RTT. This is quite different form current (TCP) congestion 
> control where you calculate the sending rate based on continuous feedback 
> (assuming you have more or less all the time data to send). Would we consider 
> both as congestion control or only the latter case which is TCP-like 
> congestion control?
> 
> I would propose to only talk about congestion avoidance in the charter to make 
> sure that we not only aim for TCP-like congestion control but also a solution 
> as described above would be in the charter.
> 
> Mirja
> 
> 
> On Thursday 02 August 2012 19:12:30 Michael Welzl wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> There were two minimal changes to the charter, which is at:
>> https://sites.google.com/a/alvestrand.com/rtp-congestion/bof-planning-page/
>> wg-charter---input-to-vancouver
>> 
>> It now explicitly says that the following are out of scope:
>> * Active queue management; modifications to TCP of any kind; and
>> * Multicast congestion control (common control of multiple unicast
>> flows is in scope).
>> 
>> Other than that, the charter hasn't changed since the last version
>> that was sent around in May.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>> 
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> 
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