[RTW] List is now open

Stefan Håkansson LK stefan.lk.hakansson at ericsson.com
Mon Oct 11 01:26:42 CEST 2010


That's right, a lot of things remain regarding protocols and other stuff. But IMHO <device>, StreamAPIs and <audio> and <video> should be part of the puzzle!

--Stefan

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From: Silvia Pfeiffer [mailto:silviapfeiffer1 at gmail.com]
Sent: den 11 oktober 2010 01:23
To: Stefan Håkansson LK
Cc: Harald Alvestrand; rtc-web at alvestrand.no; David Singer
Subject: Re: [RTW] List is now open

Hi Stefan,

I have seen those, thanks. That's actually the reason why I asked: because I have already seen it work with the <device> element and I wondered what the remaining challenges were. It seems there is lots of discussion about protocols and codecs.

Cheers,
Silvia.


On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson at ericsson.com<mailto:stefan.lk.hakansson at ericsson.com>> wrote:
Silvia,

you might be interested in some experimenting we've done with media streams and <device>: https://labs.ericsson.com/developer-community/blog/beyond-html5-conversational-voice-and-video-implemented-webkit-gtk (you can track back to earlier posts).

BR,
Stefan

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On 10/09/10 03:17, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
Thanks for the general invite!

I wonder: has the HTML5 device element been looked at (http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-device/) and what are the problems with that solution?
We're the ones who have to look - and some on the list have been closely involved with writing the <device> spec. It would be surprising to me if they are not part of the solution - but just part.

As far as I know, it's still not clear how to tie a <device> to a media stream - given that media streams aren't defined yet, this is not very surprising :-)


Cheers,
Silvia.


On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 5:28 PM, David Singer <singer at apple.com<mailto:singer at apple.com>> wrote:
Cool, thanks Harald

as I said during the day, I'd like to separate (as much as possible) "why is real-time communications on the internet hard?" (which is true, but a subject the IETF, the ITU, and others are also grappling with) from "what is interesting/challenging about real-time communications *in the web*?" -- which I take to mean in pages shown by a browser.


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