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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=449472423-10102010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>That's right, a lot of things remain regarding protocols
and other stuff. But IMHO <device>, StreamAPIs and <audio> and
<video> should be part of the puzzle! </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=449472423-10102010><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>--Stefan</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Silvia Pfeiffer
[mailto:silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> den 11 oktober 2010
01:23<BR><B>To:</B> Stefan Håkansson LK<BR><B>Cc:</B> Harald Alvestrand;
rtc-web@alvestrand.no; David Singer<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [RTW] List is now
open<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi Stefan,<BR><BR>I have seen those, thanks. That's actually the
reason why I asked: because I have already seen it work with the <device>
element and I wondered what the remaining challenges were. It seems there is
lots of discussion about protocols and
codecs.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Silvia.<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Stefan Håkansson LK
<SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com">stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Silvia,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>you might
be interested in some experimenting we've done with media streams and
<device>: <A
href="https://labs.ericsson.com/developer-community/blog/beyond-html5-conversational-voice-and-video-implemented-webkit-gtk"
target=_blank><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>https://labs.ericsson.com/developer-community/blog/beyond-html5-conversational-voice-and-video-implemented-webkit-gtk</FONT></A> (you
can track back to earlier posts).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>BR,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Stefan</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:rtc-web-bounces@alvestrand.no"
target=_blank>rtc-web-bounces@alvestrand.no</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:rtc-web-bounces@alvestrand.no"
target=_blank>rtc-web-bounces@alvestrand.no</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Harald
Alvestrand<BR><B>Sent:</B> den 9 oktober 2010 10:12<BR><B>To:</B> Silvia
Pfeiffer<BR><B>Cc:</B> <A href="mailto:rtc-web@alvestrand.no"
target=_blank>rtc-web@alvestrand.no</A>; David Singer<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[RTW] List is now open<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>On 10/09/10 03:17, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Thanks for the general invite!<BR><BR>I wonder: has
the HTML5 device element been looked at (<A
href="http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-device/"
target=_blank>http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-device/</A>) and what are the
problems with that solution?<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>We're the ones who have to look -
and some on the list have been closely involved with writing the
<device> spec. It would be surprising to me if they are not part of the
solution - but just part.<BR><BR>As far as I know, it's still not clear how to
tie a <device> to a media stream - given that media streams aren't
defined yet, this is not very surprising :-)<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR>Cheers,<BR>Silvia.<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 5:28 PM, David Singer <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:singer@apple.com"
target=_blank>singer@apple.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Cool,
thanks Harald<BR><BR>as I said during the day, I'd like to separate (as
much as possible) "why is real-time communications on the internet hard?"
(which is true, but a subject the IETF, the ITU, and others are also
grappling with) from "what is interesting/challenging about real-time
communications *in the web*?" -- which I take to mean in pages shown by a
browser.<BR><BR><BR>On Oct 8, 2010, at 4:24 , Harald Alvestrand
wrote:<BR><BR>> Cullen (I think) has changed the permissions on the
list, so that now everyone can subscribe, and the archives are
open.<BR>><BR>> If you know of people you think should be on the
list, please ask them to subscribe!<BR>><BR>> The two ways to
subscribe:<BR>><BR>> - Send "subscribe" to <A
href="mailto:rtc-web-request@alvestrand.no"
target=_blank>rtc-web-request@alvestrand.no</A>, and do what the response
says<BR>> - Go to <A
href="http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/rtc-web"
target=_blank>http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/rtc-web</A> and
follow instructions<BR>><BR>> Let the discussions
begin!<BR>><BR>>
Harald<BR>><BR>>
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target=_blank>http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/rtc-web</A><BR><BR>David
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