ISO 639 JAC decision re mo/mol
gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Mon Nov 3 23:29:28 CET 2008
According to the Wikipedia article Moldavian is written in the Latin script.
It is only in the break away region of Transnistria that it is written in
Cyrillic. Consequently I think that the two changes are wrong.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 11:08 PM, Mark Davis <mark at macchiato.com> wrote:
> Deprecation of "mo" is a welcome step; whenever BCP47 has two separate
> codes for entities that are really dialects, regional variants, or
> orthographic variants of a single language, it just causes problems for any
> software that has to deal with them. Thus one ends up having to have a
> special hack to treat "mo" as if it were "ro-Cyrl-MD". Introducing a formal
> deprecation in ISO and then the IANA registry alerts people and software as
> to the underlying relationship, and allows simpler canonicalization to a
> unique form for comparison. People can still call "ro-Cyrl-MD" by the term
> There are, however, two changes that need to be made to the IANA registry
> for this:
> A. 'mo':
> - deprecate and add preferred code "ro-Cyrl".
> B. 'ro':
> - remove the suppress-script of Latn
> - add a comment that Romanian as used in Moldavia ("ro-MD") is typically
> called "Moldovan" or "Moldavian" and written in Cyrillic. It is thus
> generally equivalent in function to "ro-Cyrl-MD".
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Lang Gérard <gerard.lang at insee.fr> wrote:
>> Maybe, but this does not explain why "mo" and "mol" have been created and
>> used during this time. In particular, if "mol" has been created, there must
>> be some terminological or bibliographical entries (notably at the LC ?)
>> having used this code element ? Because "mol" was created in 1998, after the
>> 1994 Constitution of Moldova.
>> And if the Moldovan language academy recognization is new, is it between
>> 2008-06-26 (when ISO 639 RA/JAC modified "mo" and "mol" by adding a new
>> language name variant) and now ?
>> Gérard LANG
>> De : John Cowan [mailto:cowan at ccil.org]
>> Envoyé : lundi 3 novembre 2008 16:30
>> À : Lang Gérard
>> Cc : Doug Ewell; ietf-languages at iana.org; havard at hjulstad.com
>> Objet : Re: ISO 639 JAC decision re mo/mol
>> Lang Gérard scripsit:
>> > How is it possible that this language name, that passed all criteria
>> > to be recognized inside ISO 639[-1] and ISO 639-2 during 20 or 10
>> > years, has now to be deprecated ?
>> In a word, because political realities have finally caught up to
>> linguistic ones: the constitution may say "Moldovan language", but the
>> Moldovan language academy recognizes the facts on the ground, which are that
>> Moldovan is Romanian.
>> But that, he realized, was a foolish John Cowan
>> thought; as no one knew better than he cowan at ccil.org
>> that the Wall had no other side.
>> http://www.ccil.org/~cowan <http://www.ccil.org/%7Ecowan>
>> --Arthur C. Clarke, "The Wall of Darkness"
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