ISO 639 JAC decision re mo/mol
mark at macchiato.com
Mon Nov 3 23:08:05 CET 2008
Deprecation of "mo" is a welcome step; whenever BCP47 has two separate codes
for entities that are really dialects, regional variants, or orthographic
variants of a single language, it just causes problems for any software that
has to deal with them. Thus one ends up having to have a special hack to
treat "mo" as if it were "ro-Cyrl-MD". Introducing a formal deprecation in
ISO and then the IANA registry alerts people and software as to the
underlying relationship, and allows simpler canonicalization to a unique
form for comparison. People can still call "ro-Cyrl-MD" by the term
There are, however, two changes that need to be made to the IANA registry
- deprecate and add preferred code "ro-Cyrl".
- remove the suppress-script of Latn
- add a comment that Romanian as used in Moldavia ("ro-MD") is typically
called "Moldovan" or "Moldavian" and written in Cyrillic. It is thus
generally equivalent in function to "ro-Cyrl-MD".
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:51 AM, Lang Gérard <gerard.lang at insee.fr> wrote:
> Maybe, but this does not explain why "mo" and "mol" have been created and
> used during this time. In particular, if "mol" has been created, there must
> be some terminological or bibliographical entries (notably at the LC ?)
> having used this code element ? Because "mol" was created in 1998, after the
> 1994 Constitution of Moldova.
> And if the Moldovan language academy recognization is new, is it between
> 2008-06-26 (when ISO 639 RA/JAC modified "mo" and "mol" by adding a new
> language name variant) and now ?
> Gérard LANG
> De : John Cowan [mailto:cowan at ccil.org]
> Envoyé : lundi 3 novembre 2008 16:30
> À : Lang Gérard
> Cc : Doug Ewell; ietf-languages at iana.org; havard at hjulstad.com
> Objet : Re: ISO 639 JAC decision re mo/mol
> Lang Gérard scripsit:
> > How is it possible that this language name, that passed all criteria
> > to be recognized inside ISO 639[-1] and ISO 639-2 during 20 or 10
> > years, has now to be deprecated ?
> In a word, because political realities have finally caught up to linguistic
> ones: the constitution may say "Moldovan language", but the Moldovan
> language academy recognizes the facts on the ground, which are that Moldovan
> is Romanian.
> But that, he realized, was a foolish John Cowan
> thought; as no one knew better than he cowan at ccil.org
> that the Wall had no other side. http://www.ccil.org/~cowan
> --Arthur C. Clarke, "The Wall of Darkness"
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