[RTW] My biggest concern

[Harald Alvestrand]

On 03/28/11 14:31, Robin Raymond wrote:
>
> Pinning as an app tab is not something the average user is going to 
> know how to do and it does not remove the search bar or the ability to 
> navigate away. While it might be a possible solution if browsers added 
> this concept programmatically (relying on the user is not practical 
> IMHO), that would open another can of worms on how to prevent abuse 
> where ads start creating themselves as auto-pinned "app" tabs.
>
> While it might not be a concern for the draft per-say, if you design 
> something that in practice doesn't work in the real world it will be a 
> draft/RFC that won't get wildly adopted and that's death for anything 
> as implementation is critical. I think it's important not to ignore 
> this issue and a workable solution must be found or it will never get 
> used by real users.
There's an even simpler workaround employed by many pages with 
in-progress state:

Attaching a Javascript popup to the "close" action saying "You're in the 
middle of a call. Do you want to hang up?"

A more advanced implementation with background app pages would offer 
multiple choices:
- Suspend the call, but make it available for resumption
- Keep the call open, running in a background page
- Hang up the call
I think Javascript has the necessary hooks, and we can leave this one to 
the UI designers.

                  Harald

>
> Robin Raymond
> hookflash
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Timothy B. Terriberry 
> <tterriberry at mozilla.com <mailto:tterriberry at mozilla.com>> wrote:
>
>         In my own situation, I have a list of common viewed websites
>         at the top
>         of my browser and a simple accidental click will go to those
>         new pages.
>
>
>     If that's your biggest concern, then I have good news for you.
>     Firefox 4 has a feature called App Tabs designed to address these
>     use cases (I believe Chrome has something similar, but I don't use
>     it so I don't actually know). More information here:
>     http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/what-are-app-tabs, but the
>     relevant sentence is: "Links to new websites open in a new tab so
>     that your App Tab doesn't change." I think this does exactly what
>     you want.
>
>     In any case, this is fundamentally an issue for the user-agent,
>     and not, I think, one that has much impact on the actual standards.
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