Can we learn something from IETF history?

[Randy Bush]

>>> The original work was done far less formally, with hallway conversations
>>> as the means for floating ideas and exploring reactions
>>isn't this what some seem to call a closed conspiracy today?
> We might call it that today
> but that is not what it was then.

indeed.  and almost always, that is not what it is today.  unless
one needs to characterize things thusly to artificially polarize
the situation.

> So maybe it was closed -- closed to those people who
> lacked motivation and/or coherency...

that is life, i think.

randy