NOT "inciting to riot" (was: Last Call: IP over MIME toProposed Standard)

[john.loughney at nokia.com]

Hi Keith,

At 09:29 PM 5/25/2003, Keith Moore wrote:
>> What we need to do is come
>> up with clear rules how things progress (and perhaps what is & is not
>> appropriate for IETF standardization); a simple and straightforward 
>> way to resolve disputes; transparent leadership selection process and
>> transparent decision making.  If we had all of these, we probably would
>> be about 80% done (in my opinion).
>
>I think it's more like 30%.  The thing that we really need to do most is
>to fix how working groups operate.

Is there any reason why you think my comments did not include WGs?  I
do think that the above problems are applicable in WGs.  I think
that WGs often breakdown when trying to resolve problems - the
result is that often some problems don't get resolved until IESG
review, for example.

John