My thoughts about the problems of the IETF

[Bound, Jim]

That is a good point.  The IESG has been under pressure.  WGs should be
under pressure. I think killing ngtrans shows some accountability in
theory as example.  From that vantage point.  No comment on right or
wrong.  But the way it was done was poor from a management perspective,
and an action like that in industry from a manager would either get them
fired or a bad performance review.  This points to the way we do things
and accountability for actions.  I realize this is not industry but a
standards organization.  But we should expect tact and sensitivity from
leadership roles and good communicatations skills.
If someone does not have good communications skills I don't believe they
should be in any leadership position in the IETF.

/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Moore [mailto:moore at cs.utk.edu] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:02 AM
> To: Bound, Jim
> Cc: moore at cs.utk.edu; Jonne.Soininen at nokia.com; 
> harald at alvestrand.no; problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: My thoughts about the problems of the IETF
> 
> 
> > I agree with what you say about WGs.
> > 
> > But I am getting the feeling here that the IESG has no problems and 
> > all is well.  That is not true is all I am saying.
> 
> certainly IESG has problems.  but IESG has been under 
> pressure to solve its problems for awhile now.  they're not 
> all solved, and they'll never be all solved, but they have a 
> head start.  there is far more that can be done to 
> improve WG output than to improve IESG, and this is really 
> where we can get the most gain.  
> 
> (and there are a few things we can do in addition to 
> improving either one - like provide ways to give WGs more 
> feedback earlier in their lifetimes)
> 
> Keith
>