"Adult supervision"

[Bound, Jim]

Problem is as follows:

The IETF culture to often uses "cliches" for communications this does
not answer questions or add value to discussion, it just causes more
confusion.

/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bound, Jim 
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:22 PM
> To: Keith Moore; Charles E. Perkins
> Cc: problem-statement at alvestrand.no; harald at alvestrand.no
> Subject: RE: "Adult supervision"
> 
> 
> I think that is yet another quip.  State exactly what one 
> wants to say and be clear and direct.  Adult Supervision and 
> Herding Cats is not very useful as are not most cliches but 
> an avoidance of good communications or dishonor to just use 
> plain talk. /jim
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Moore [mailto:moore at cs.utk.edu]
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 5:09 PM
> > To: Charles E. Perkins
> > Cc: problem-statement at alvestrand.no; moore at cs.utk.edu; 
> > harald at alvestrand.no
> > Subject: Re: "Adult supervision"
> > 
> > 
> > > It seems to me that whenever these words are used
> > > by an IESG member with respect to the needs of a
> > > working group, it highlights a serious problem in
> > > the attitude of the IESG member.
> > 
> > I agree.  "herding cats" is a much better expression.
> > 
> > 
>