My thoughts about the problems of the IETF
Bound, Jim
Jim.Bound at hp.com
Mon May 5 23:28:38 CEST 2003
The problem to me is as Ted put it. But I do think better minutes is
required.
/jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bound, Jim
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:18 PM
> To: Jonne.Soininen at nokia.com; moore at cs.utk.edu; harald at alvestrand.no
> Cc: problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: RE: My thoughts about the problems of the IETF
>
>
> The IESG being more open I think is the jist folks.
>
> IESG below means the body and function not individuals
>
> Does anyone think the IESG is perfect?
> Does anyone not think that the IESG owns a share of the
> problems in the IETF? Does anyone think that the IESG is
> capable of handling all the current work?
>
> And we should get the IESG members out of the room with the
> nomcom committee for the next nomcom they have no business in
> there at all.
>
> /jim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jonne.Soininen at nokia.com [mailto:Jonne.Soininen at nokia.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 4:48 PM
> > To: moore at cs.utk.edu; harald at alvestrand.no
> > Cc: problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> > Subject: RE: My thoughts about the problems of the IETF
> >
> >
> > Hi Keith,
> > > and as far as I can tell, they're about as good as
> minutes ever get,
> > > and
> > > (fwiw) far better than the minutes of most WG meetings.
> > >
> > > even if not terribly detailed, they're still useful as a record of
> > > exactly what got decided and what didn't, along with some
> > occasional
> > > background.
> >
> > I would not completely agree with you. I agree that they are
> > better than nothing, but they can hardly be even considered
> > as meeting minutes. They tend to list only the results of the
> > meeting but no actual discussions. In addition, what I would
> > like to see is also the IESG meeting agendas (before the
> > meetings), and the meeting calendar. I think these would help
> > the people to see if their favorite documents are progressing
> > and when. This should not be too much trouble for the IESG
> > (or maybe these are the chair's job... ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jonne.
> >
>
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