ADs who are also WG chairs
vkompella at timetra.com
Fri Jun 27 13:29:07 CEST 2003
In one working group, a WG chair did more than recuse himself because he wanted
to push through a draft he had co-authored. He actually stepped down from the
chair position. I think that might be going too far. But these are
The problem statement is more about whether the following are perceived to be
issues or not:
- pursuing an individual draft within a WG that one co-chairs
- co-chairing a WG that one oversees as an AD
I'd see the former as less of an issue, and recusal is adequate. The second is
a bigger issue.
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:problem-statement-bounces at alvestrand.no]On Behalf Of Brian E
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 11:29 AM
> To: James Kempf
> Cc: problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: ADs who are also WG chairs
> I agree that it's amazing that ADs ever say "yes" to this (except
> when the WG is tailing off, for example) and I think the case of
> being a chair in the same area is definitely a conflict of interest.
> I think recusal should cover the other cases. It is worth documenting.
> James Kempf wrote:
> > >
> > > One of the issues that came up in the discussion on rough consensus
> > > is the issue of ADs being WG chairs - either in their own area or in
> > > another
> > > area.
> > >
> > > I do not believe this dual role aspect of IETF management is yet
> > > reflected
> > > in the problem draft.
> > >
> > > Should it be?
> > >
> > As long as the AD acting as a WG chair recluses themselves from any and all
> > IESG decisions having to do with the WG, to avoid conflict of interest, I
> > don't think there should be a problem. I think its somewhat more
> > questionable if the WG is in the same area, since it removes one person from
> > oversight, and having two technically knowledgable, independent opinions on
> > a WG is often useful.
> > That said, I cannot see how, given the workload, an AD can possibly do a
> > good job as a WG chair and still expect to fufill their duties as an AD.
> > Just on the basis of that alone, it might be sensible to consider some kind
> > of strong disapproval, if not restriction, and make it an exceptional case.
> > My 0.02 euro.
> > jak
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