rough consensus (was Re: "trouble maker")
James Seng
jseng at pobox.org.sg
Fri Jun 27 04:43:09 CEST 2003
I believe the general problem is our current process of letting wg
chairs determine rough consensus without a general definition. (Yes, I
know it is a feature too :P)
Since people have different opinion of the "rough consensus", those
(especially the doc authors or someone with more then casual
interest[1]) who disagree with the chair become resentful of the IETF
process.
Personally, I already lost count how many times it happens. It is not
healty.
[1] "more then casual interest" != vested interest. (See Keith v.s NAT,
no offense intended :-)
-James Seng
Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This has been a very interesting discussion, and I beleive that
> it is important that the details of this issue be debated and resolved.
> I do not believe that should be done on this list. It was good to get
> the problem discussed so that people could do an abstraction of it
> for the problem statement, but I would like to avoid dwelling on the
> specific arguments relating to it any longer.
>
> At this point I ask that people concentrate on the general language
> for the problem statement so that we can make sure that the problem
> is reflected adequately in the problem statement.
>
> Thanks
>
> Avri
> co-chair
>
>
>
>
> On torsdag, jun 26, 2003, at 13:45 Asia/Seoul, Harald Tveit Alvestrand
> wrote:
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