rough consensus (was Re: "trouble maker")
Hallam-Baker, Phillip
pbaker at verisign.com
Wed Jun 25 17:22:36 CEST 2003
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian at hursley.ibm.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 6:35 PM
> To: Hallam-Baker, Phillip
> Cc: problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: rough consensus (was Re: "trouble maker")
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> "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" wrote:
> >
> > And who hears the appeal? - A committee where the
> individual responsible for
> > the abuses has audience rights and I do not.
>
> Not at all. The IAB has several times held open hearings on
> appeals, for
> good reason. And by the way, unfairness in the appeals process would
> seem like reasonable grounds for a final appeal to the ISOC Board.
>
> ...
> >
> > If we are going to have a discussion about PROBLEM then
> discussion of
> > specific failures of the process would seem to be a good
> starting point.
>
> But if the appeal process and/or the recall process haven't
> been used, you
> simply can't assert a process failure.
>
> > If we are ever going to get to a SOLUTION it would be good
> to start hearing
> > that others accept that I am not the only person making the
> complaint about
> > autocratic top down proceedures and that they are having a
> widespread
> > effect.
>
> Indeed. One swallow does not a summer make. It would be
> interesting to know
> how many of the WGs have members who would assert such problems.
>
> Brian
>
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