ISSUE: Goal of problem-statement document

[Bound, Jim]

I think long discussion on this list and clear disagreement means there is a problem. So lets call it list debate consensus?

/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand [mailto:harald at alvestrand.no] 
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 7:35 AM
> To: Spencer Dawkins; problem-statement at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: ISSUE: Goal of problem-statement document
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> --On lørdag, juni 07, 2003 23:45:08 -0500 Spencer Dawkins 
> <spencer at mcsr-labs.org> wrote:
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> > I can't speak for others, but my goal here was to avoid having to 
> > figure out what the IETF consensus was on a prioritized root cause 
> > list before moving on any root cause. This looked like 
> death to me. I 
> > don't believe there are ANY scope limits on discussions about the 
> > relative priority of root IETF problems, unlike our normal 
> engineering 
> > work.
> >
> > So I thought developing a root cause list (which we have done, at 
> > least at some level) was sufficient, without spending time 
> trying to 
> > determine priorities. I thought this was "good enough".
> 
> actually I tend to agree with your sentiment, but not with 
> the text of the 
> document as written.
> 
> if we can formulate the text as saying "we think there is 
> IETF consensus 
> that this statement of root causes is good enough to guide us 
> into the 
> process of what to try to fix first", I think it would be better.
> 
> What I reacted most strongly to was the statement "a vain attempt to 
> achieve any sort of consensus" - we need SOME sort of consensus.
> 
>               Harald
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