ISSUE: Procedural rapid ossification
Spencer Dawkins
spencer at mcsr-labs.org
Fri Jun 6 16:35:18 CEST 2003
Dear John (Klensin),
I look forward to the Vienna meeting with increased anticipation.
Thank you for the slap across the face ("thanks, I needed that").
Since you mention I-D submission deadlines specifically -
I remember the Munich IETF, and hearing from an IAB member
who missed the I-D cutoff by several minutes (less than 10), so
we couldn't discuss the proposal (can't remember if it was a WG
document or not).
After that, I've had very high regard for the IETF's rules.
You are suggesting that my regard might have been a little TOO
high. An interesting thought.
Spencer
----- Original Message -----
From: "John C Klensin" <john-ietf at jck.com>
To: <problem-statement at alvestrand.no>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:14 PM
Subject: ISSUE: Procedural rapid ossification
> A number of list transactions/ discussions in the last few
> weeks, and a few recent offline discussions, have convinced me
> that we have another problem that both belongs on the list and
> calls for thought about this WG, its processes, and those it is
> spawning.
>
> Summary: In a system that is designed around having firm general
> principles and considerable IESG discretion within those
> principles, we are showing a disturbing tendency to turn IESG
> "rules of convenience" into rigid strictures that cannot be
> violated or deviated from. It is a bad combination.
>
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