The IETF's problems

[Iljitsch van Beijnum]

On zondag, jul 20, 2003, at 18:24 Europe/Amsterdam, Keith Moore wrote:

>> How stubborn can one person be?

> yes, how stubborn can one person be?

> just because a government passes a law doesn't mean IETF should expend 
> its
> energy to try to help them.

There is a little more going on than just one government passing a law.

And it's certainly not about helping governments, it's about helping 
service providers and smaller vendors. Cisco is trying to do the 
responsible thing here by coming to the IETF to standardize this stuff.

> now, can we please get back to the topic of this list?

This is a prime example of the topic of this list: the IETF is unable 
to determine what it should work on and what it shouldn't work on in a 
satisfactory way.