The IETF's problems

[todd glassey]

Keith

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Moore" <moore at cs.utk.edu>
To: "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <iljitsch at muada.com>
Cc: <problem-statement at alvestrand.no>; <moore at cs.utk.edu>
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: The IETF's problems


> >  But when even large vendors are unable to get protocols that
> > they feel is important (and have implemented or are implementing)
> > "through" IETF, there is a problem.
>
> Let's get this straight right now.

Oooohhhh - heavy commentary !

>
> IETF DOES NOT exist to do what large vendors what to do.

yes Keith they are - and in fact the IETF is totally setup to pass the
efforts of a few specific vendors and several educational entities into
standards status. It may not be what's on paper but its what happens in the
real world, and any forensic accountancy that runs an analysis will probably
see that the IETF is pretty regularly used by its larger players to inhibit
other companies from entering the arena.

>
> And large vendors are not reliable indicators of what is good for the
> Internet.

Again - yes they are... they are the Internet.


Todd Glassey