ADs who are also WG chairs

[James Seng]

You reach this conclusion from..erm 1 wg out of 100+ wgs in IETF?

Assuming it is indeed a failure (and you have not convience me that 
there is a process failure in DNSEXT), you cannot extend one example to 
all other wgs.

Sorry, your story dont sell.

-James Seng

Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
>>Once again, 'democratic' is not one of our core principle, AFAIK. 
>>Running code & rough consensus is the IETF core principle.
> 
> 
> No, the core principle is top down organization, control by the few.
> 
> Consensus or running code did not enter into the DNSEXT OPTIN
> process.
> 
> If the IESG has any value it will refuse the DNSSEC specs as
> broken of its own accord. Instead however it will be too timid
> to challenge Randy.
> 
> What "consensus" means is people are too frightened to rock the
> boat lest their behavior cause someone who is obstructionist 
> and determined to get their own way start blocking your projects
> in retaliation.
> 
> 		Phill
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