My thoughts about the problems of the IETF

Margaret Wasserman mrw at
Thu Apr 17 16:06:02 CEST 2003

I think that this is all an argument about how we use the
terms "technical" and "process".

In an appeal, I think that anything that concerns technical
issues is a technical appeal, and therefore can't be appealed
to ISOC.

Let's assume, for the moment, that the IAB had come back with
a finding in the Elz appeal that said "Ah ha!  The IPv6 group
didn't check for two interoperable implementations of <foo>."
This would still, IMO, be a technical finding on a technical
appeal...  If we appealed that decision to ISOC, I hope they
would refuse to consider it, as they have no more place in
deciding what constitutes a feature of IPv6 that needs to be
tested for interoperability than they do in deciding if an
IPv6 document is technically correct or sufficiently clear.


At 01:53 PM 4/17/2003 -0500, Pete Resnick wrote:
>On 4/17/03 at 2:21 PM -0400, Margaret Wasserman wrote:
>>But, the Elz appeal was a technical issue involving document clarity.
>Actually, I believe (and Robert can correct me if I'm wrong if he's 
>listening) that the Elz appeal *was* about a process violation (not 
>checking for two implementations), but the IAB decided that the document 
>was not clear enough to determine what the protocol required. They 
>sidestepped the issue of whether there actually was a process violation.
>Pete Resnick <mailto:presnick at>
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