IAB issues

[James Kempf]

Ran,

Well put.

I recently posted an email to the wgchairs list soliciting feedback about how
the WG chairs would like to get more architectural input, but so far no
response. :-(

            jak

----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Atkinson" <rja@extremenetworks.com>
To: "avri doria" <avri@sm.luth.se>
Cc: <problem-statement@alvestrand.no>; "iab" <iab@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: IAB issues


>
> On Wednesday, Nov 6, 2002, at 03:48 America/Montreal, avri doria wrote:
> > - Role of IAB.  In discussions about the IAB, what they don't,
> > or shouldn't do, is discussed as much if not more that what
> > they should do.  What should they do?  sometimes i think they
> > have been become primarily a liaison body.  Is this the case
> > and is it what is needed.
>
> I am pretty sure the IAB would be interested in hearing directly
> from folks who have concerns.  Harald and I might be the only
> IAB folks on this list, not sure.  I've copied the IAB on this
> note, so they will both see the above and have a chance to correct
> anything I say below that is wrong.
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE: This is MY personal opinion, not the view of
> the IAB as a whole.  I *never* speak for the IAB.
>
> Generally speaking, the IAB has no *power* at all relative to the IETF.
> In specific, IAB has the very narrow role of hearing appeals of IESG
> decisions, but not much more.  The IAB as a body does ensure (at least
> during my time on IAB) that there is an IAB member present at each BOF.
> Individual IAB members normally offer advice to the IESG about
> chartering WGs,
> but the IESG can (and regularly does) act on some advice and ignore
> other
> advice.  Note that this is not a "special power" of the IAB --
> individual
> IETF members have equal opportunity to comment on proposed WGs and any
> WG charter revisions.
>
> The IAB does think about architecture (which is its notional primary
> role)
> and publishes I-Ds (and RFCs) on both broad architectural topics
> (draft-iab-considerations-*) and specific issues (e.g. OPES) from time
> to time.
> A list of recent IAB publications is online at http://www.iab.org.
>
> We also organise IAB Workshops.  In June we held one on Network
> Managment,
> for which an I-D is available online right now.  Last year, we held one
> on
> Mobile Networks (really "cell phones & the Internet", IMHO).   The IETF
> often, but not always, takes those workshop results into account in
> figuring
> out where to go.  The IAB does coordinate liaisons and IAB members also
> try
> to do a certain amount of damage prevention relative to several of those
> liaisons.
>
> A more comprehensive answer to "What does the IAB do ?" is on the IAB
> web page.
>
> > In terms of speakers, I don't think it really matters.
> > But if anything the IESG transparency issue should be
> > presented by a member of the IESG who is eager to have
> > the body made transparent.  Also, the role of the IAB
> > should, perhaps, be discussed by someone who understands
> > what they do and has a view of what they should do.
>
> I'd suggest that we take that up, but that we do so in the IAB Plenary
> rather than the IETF Plenary, just as a matter of sorting topics into
> the right meeting slots.   Anyone with other IAB questions, comments,
> or suggestions should feel free to send them to the IAB list:
> <iab@iab.org>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ran
> rja@extremenetworks.com
>
>