Selecting leadership, take 2

Carsten Bormann cabo@tzi.org
Fri, 6 Dec 2002 09:39:25 +0100


> Does draft-huston-pact list any problems that you disagree with?  Does 
> it
> suggest changes that you disagree with?

Yes. Yes.

Dave, the problem is that within the IETF, there is a wide array of 
perceptions on whether we have a problem and, if yes, what the problem 
is.
This makes it hard to discuss solutions.  I for one believe that some 
of the "solutions" in that draft make the problems worse that *I* 
perceive.  I can't really talk to you about that efficiently because 
you don't share my perceptions.
So I do believe we have to talk problems first.

As a meta-comment, to me it seems some people are frustrated (which 
would be quite normal for a consensus process even if perfectly 
managed).
The current brouhaha creates a train where all the frustrated people 
can jump on.
This may make it seem that a majority agrees on something.
I don't think that is actually the case.
(At least not beyond the fact that it is about time we go back and 
re-examine our processes -- I'll concede that.)

Even if we had agreement on the problems, I still don't believe we have 
to fall into actionism.
It will take time to reform a consensus-based organisation.

Gruesse, Carsten