request for subtag for Elfdalian
petercon at microsoft.com
Tue Mar 1 17:18:51 CET 2016
If it's clearly wrong on a linguistic basis, then the right approach is to provide to the RA more information that makes clear that linguistic argument and shows that it's information that many linguists familiar with the languages in question — preferably not just ones within the Elfdalian community — confirm that view.
Simply writing an "appeal" letter without providing more evidence is essentially saying, "I'm right, therefore you should do as I say." Michael knows things wouldn't work that way in this list. We shouldn't expect any different in engaging with the 639-3 RA.
From: Ietf-languages [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of Anthony Aristar
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:13 AM
To: Michael Everson <everson at evertype.com>
Cc: ietflang IETF Languages Discussion <ietf-languages at iana.org>
Subject: Re: request for subtag for Elfdalian
I must admit I entirely agree with Michael. I don't speak Swedish, but I have close relations with Swedish linguists. And there's not a one who doesn't say that Elfdalian is about as comprehensible to them as Frisian is to Dutch. Sociolinguistics should have nothing to do with it. The decision is clearly wrong.
> On Feb 29, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Michael Everson <everson at evertype.com> wrote:
>> On 29 Feb 2016, at 16:48, Peter Constable <petercon at microsoft.com> wrote:
>> What the Elfdalian case has encountered is questions as to whether there is a set of criteria that apply in exactly the same way in all sociolinguistic contexts, or if there should be some adjustment in the criteria for different sociolinguistic contexts
> Sociolinguistics? Bosh. This is a matter of simple grammar. Elfdalian is not a dialect of Swedish.
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