request for subtag for Elfdalian

Kent Karlsson kent.karlsson14 at
Fri Jan 22 14:42:30 CET 2016

I'm not sure why they responded this way (with a reference to a masters
thesis in German). Linguistically,
älvdalian is more different from Swedish than Norwegian or even Danish. And
usually the RA is more
on the "separating" than "lumping" side.

For those who remember the request to have a language code for (modern
day!!) Scanian (skånska):
Modern day Scanian is a relatively mild dialect of Swedish (not at all
similar to Danish, in relative
terms). So that request (from the king of Scania, no less... ;-) was
correctly rejected. The request
for a code for älvdalian, however, is different. It should have been
accepted. It is genuinely different
from (standard) Swedish to a great extent. True, there are many dialects of
Swedish, but this is
more than a dialect, älvalian is a separate language, official status as
minority language or language
continuum in the region of Dalarna notwithstanding.

(both in Swedish).

/Kent Karlsson

Den 2016-01-22 00:31, skrev "Mats Blakstad" <mats.gbproject at>:

> It looks like SiL have a "wait and see attitude" to give Övdalian/Elfdalian a
> language code.
> You can read the full statement about it here:
> My question is how this can best be dealt with now. Should we again apply for
> a subtag that might be retired again later?
> 2015-08-05 0:50 GMT+02:00 Mats Blakstad <mats.gbproject at>:
>> Thanks!
>> It should say:
>> ³alv² or ²ovd² or ³elf²
>> The last two suggestions are missing. I've told them about this now if they
>> can correct it.
>> 2015-08-05 0:35 GMT+02:00 Doug Ewell <doug at>:
>>> Mats Blakstad <mats dot gbproject at gmail dot com> wrote:
>>>> > I just want to make you aware that I've submitted an application to
>>>> > register Elfdalian/Övdalian in the ISO 639-3 standard, together with
>>>> > 10 Scandinavian linguistics:
>>>> >
>>> Thanks for the update.
>>> One comment:
>>>> > f) Preferred three letter identifier, if available: ³alv² or ²
>>> [alv] is the ISO 639-5 code element for "Atlantic-Congo languages."
>>> Since all parts of ISO 639 share the same three-letter code space, this
>>> code element is not available. If the RA approves your request, they'll
>>> pick something different, or you might want to suggest [ovd] for
>>> Övdalian, which is available.
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