Spanglish

[Mark Davis ☕️]

You are being mislead by the the term "Transformed Content" in the title of
the RFC. As the abstract makes clear, the scope has always been broader
than simply a transform.

Mark

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:04 AM, John Cowan <cowan at ccil.org> wrote:

>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Doug Ewell <doug at ewellic.org> wrote:
>
>> > This document specifies an Extension to BCP 47 that provides subtags
>> > for specifying the source language or script of transformed content,
>> > including content that has been transliterated, transcribed, or
>> > translated, *or in some other way influenced by the source*.  It also
>> > provides for additional information used for identification.
>>
>> Seen in the light of "influenced by," I guess I can live with the notion
>> that Spanglish (and similar hybrids) is a "transformation" of one of the
>> constituent languages.
>
>
> I can't accept that.  Consider the first lines of "Ode to El Spanglish
> Poem" by Sandra Santiago:
>
> My tongue transforms
> the written word
> into a sword,
> chopiando language,
> creating interlingual innovations.
>
> There is insufficiency in English
> to describe the diasporic
> condition of my soul.
>
> My words invade el ingles,
> as they become the contra
> to the prejudice of thick accents
> and to the racism against
> mispronunciations.
>
> Here's another, called simply "Spanglish", by Andrés González Castro:
>
> ¿Pero qué es esta nueva algarabía,
> this real mess de lenguas abrazadas,
> unidas in just one, tan enlazadas
> you don’t believe it si tú no lo hear?
>
> Sí, ya tú sabes que pasó last year.
> That’s the problem, you know , las temporadas
> he doesn´t work , que son muy fastidiadas.
> OK. Te dejo. Bye. Take care, María.
>
> The first is not a transformation of English, partial or otherwise, into
> Spanish, nor is the second a transformation of Spanish into English.  They
> are original works written directly in Spanglish itself: they exist only
> because it exists.  (Note the bilingual rhymes in the second poem.)  The
> -t- tag with its reference to a source is wholly inappropriate to them.
>
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