Registration request for new subtags for Portuguese orthographies
João Miguel Neves
joao at silvaneves.org
Fri Mar 20 17:58:31 CET 2015
Hi Michael,
Sorry, just noted the "authoritative wordlist", that's available for
browsing at http://portaldalinguaportuguesa.org/advanced.php?action=browse
I hate the format, but it's the one in the Portuguese law.
Thanks in advance,
João
On 20/03/2015 13:41, João Miguel Neves wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> If your only objection is wordlists, check
> http://natura.di.uminho.pt/download/sources/Dictionaries/wordlists/
>
> wordlist-ao are the new ortography and wordlist-preao files are the
> previous one.
>
> This is from the people that create and manage Portuguese free software
> dictionaries that you'll find in ispell, aspell, chromium, mozilla
> applications, openoffice, libreoffice, etc.
>
> Thanks,
> João
>
> Em 20/03/2015 08:08, Mark Davis ☕️ escreveu:
>> I agree with your reasoning.
>>
>>
>> Mark <https://google.com/+MarkDavis>
>> /
>> /
>> /— Il meglio è l’inimico del bene —/
>> //
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:47 AM, Peter Constable
>> <petercon at microsoft.com <mailto:petercon at microsoft.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Michael:
>>
>> Where does BCP 5646 stipulate that a wordlist must be provided? It
>> doesn't! Where are the wordlists of all the various registered
>> subtags?
>>
>> You appear to be making the mistake (as you have done before) that
>> the intent of BCP 47 language tags is to catalog linguistic
>> entities. That is not its purpose. Rather, the purpose is to
>> provide metadata elements that are declarations on the part of
>> authors as to the linguistic nature of content, or to express user
>> linguistic preferences. Just as in the case of "Latin American
>> Spanish", whether or not there is an objectively identifiable
>> definition or consensus regarding what wordlist conforms to
>> "Acordo Ortográfico da Língua Portuguesa de 1990" is not a
>> necessary requirement. Rather, what matters is that there are
>> authors who would like to characterize their content as
>> "pt-ao1990" --- that is, as Portuguese with spelling based on
>> Acordo Ortográfico da Língua Portuguesa de 1990 --- and users who
>> would like to indicate a preference for the same.
>>
>> The request is not coming from an interest in extending some
>> catalog or from some hypothetical usage scenario. The request is
>> coming from real needs in data interchange.
>>
>> It would be reasonable to ask if there is any reliable source for
>> a representative wordlist for Acordo Ortográfico da Língua
>> Portuguesa de 1990, as that would be a useful reference to include
>> in the registration. But I don't see a reason to object to the
>> requested registration if the same cannot be provided.
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ietf-languages [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no
>> <mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no>] On Behalf Of
>> Michael Everson
>> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:04 PM
>> To: ietflang IETF Languages Discussion
>> Subject: Re: Registration request for new subtags for Portuguese
>> orthographies
>>
>> On 19 Mar 2015, at 21:51, Andrew Glass (WINDOWS)
>> <Andrew.Glass at microsoft.com <mailto:Andrew.Glass at microsoft.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Michael, is the full text of the reform authoritative?
>> >
>> > http://www.portaldalinguaportuguesa.org/?action=acordo&version=1990
>>
>> It’s a guideline. It’s not an instantiation. There is a real
>> question as to how well, where, and how widely this “Acordo” which
>> has been controversial from the beginning has been implemented.
>>
>> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
>>
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