Add Likely Subtags first step

Doug Ewell doug at
Sat Jan 24 00:43:09 CET 2015

[removing CLDR from the To: list]

I think all of Kent's suggestions below are interesting, and agree with
most of them in principle.

Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, USA |

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Add Likely Subtags first step
From: Kent Karlsson <kent.karlsson14 at>
Date: Fri, January 23, 2015 11:50 am
To: Doug Ewell <doug at>, <cldr-users at>,
Ietf-languages <ietf-languages-bounces at>

Den 2015-01-23 17:35, skrev "Doug Ewell" <doug at> (on the
CLDR-users list):

> Not all grandfathered tags have a Preferred-Value. Canonicalization leaves
> such tags unchanged. Examples include "cel-gaulish", "en-GB-oed", and
> "i-mingo". 
Speaking of grandfathered tags...

Type: grandfathered
Tag: cel-gaulish
Description: Gaulish
Added: 2001-05-25

According to Wikipedia, the Gaulish languages are (or rather were):
xtg – Transalpine Gaulish
xcg – Cisalpine Gaulish
xlp – Lepontic
xga – Galatian

So I think cel-gaulish should be deprecated, with a comment like:
"Comment: See: xtg for Transalpine Gaulish, xcg for Cisalpine Gaulish,
  xlp for Lepontic, xga for Galatian."


Type: grandfathered
Tag: zh-min
Description: Min, Fuzhou, Hokkien, Amoy, or Taiwanese
Added: 1999-12-18
Deprecated: 2009-07-29

According to Ethnologue (
"The Chinese now divide Chinese Min into 5 major varieties:
Min Nan [nan], Min Bei [mnp], Min Dong [cdo], Min Zhong [czo], and
Pu-Xian [cpx].
Others say there are at least 9 varieties which are inherently mutually

So I think a comment like:
"Comment: See: nan for Min Nan, mnp for Min Bei, cdo for Min Dong,
  czo for Min Zhong, cpx for Pu-Xian."
would be appropriate for this registry entry, while deprecating this


Type: grandfathered
Tag: i-mingo
Description: Mingo
Added: 1997-09-19

According to Wikipedia, Mingo is a dialect of Seneca (language subtag:
So I think this one should be deprecated, with a reference to 'see' for
or possibly to (Preferred-Value) 'see-mingo' where 'mingo' is a new
variant subtag.
At the very least there should be a reference to Seneca, even of not
deprecating this tag.

    /Kent Karlsson

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