gender voice variants

Broome, Karen Karen.Broome at
Tue Dec 18 19:13:47 CET 2012

Agree, not a transformation. This would seem to be relevant in any sort of user interface that attempted to target a user by gender rather than taking a "he/she" or other one-size-fits-all approach. 

Also, referencing an earlier e-mail about why these items were left out of the spec previously, the idea of including information about whether the language was "spoken/written/signed/etc." was supported by several members at the time, especially those who had uses for the language tag in audiovisual contexts. Ideas like interspecies interplanetary communication were viewed to be, um, "out there"....



-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-languages-bounces at [mailto:ietf-languages-bounces at] On Behalf Of Peter Constable
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:46 AM
To: Phillips, Addison; Patrick; ietf-languages at
Subject: RE: gender voice variants

There's no transformation involved in an audio recording, and may not be any kind of transformation involved in a variety of speech assets.


-----Original Message-----
From: Phillips, Addison [mailto:addison at] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:18 AM
To: Patrick; ietf-languages at; Peter Constable
Subject: RE: gender voice variants

Patrick wrote:
> What about languages distinguishing between female and male speech 
> such as, apparently, Yanyuwa in Australia? Or Japanese onnarashii 
> (女らしい),
> aka speech for ladies?

Those would be *orthographic* variations with-in *specific* languages. These might (or might not) rise to the level of variation that requires separate identification via a subtag. But that's different from what Peter was asking about, which was identification of a variation in the audio reproduction of *any* language. I can even think of some good use cases where such subtags would be useful--for example, identifying different pre-recorded audio resources that vary by gender. 

However, I still don't think that this would be a good use for the language subtag registry. Perhaps something like the transformation extension (which does describe the changes to language material as the result of some external process)?


Addison Phillips
Globalization Architect (Lab126)
Chair (W3C I18N WG)

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