Portuguese subtags [was Ietf-languages Digest, Vol 104, Issue 11]

António H F P A Emiliano (FCSH/UNL) ah.emiliano at fcsh.unl.pt
Thu Sep 15 10:18:14 CEST 2011


On Sep 15, 2011, at 08:49, ietf-languages-request at alvestrand.no wrote:

> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:49:39 +0100
> From: Jo?o Miguel Neves <joao at silvaneves.org>
> To: ietf-languages at alvestrand.no
> Subject: Re: Portuguese subtags (Jo?o Miguel Neves & Michael Everson)
> 	[was	Re: Ietf-languages Digest, Vol 104, Issue 10]
>
> Em 15-09-2011 08:32, Ant?nio H F P A Emiliano (FCSH/UNL) escreveu:
>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:13:37 +0100
>>> From: Jo?o Miguel Neves <joao at silvaneves.org
>>> <mailto:joao at silvaneves.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: Portuguese subtags
>>>
>>> Em 13-09-2011 10:38, Michael Everson escreveu:
>>>
>>> I understand that Ant?nio doesn't like the official vocabulary and I
>>> know for a fact that he's not alone. That doesn't change the fact  
>>> that
>>> it's the official wordlist for public education and, from January  
>>> 1st,
>>> all the public administration in Portugal.
>>
>> No govt decree has been issued to that effect.
>
> Please check: http://dre.pt/pdf1sdip/2011/01/01700/0048800489.pdf
>
> PS: the same text also defines Lince
> <http://www.portaldalinguaportuguesa.org/?action=lince> as the way to
> find how to convert a word from the old spelling to the new.

Thank you. Obrigado.
I stand (partially) corrected.
This is in fact an official govt document ("resolution") approving  
the VOP as the main tool for applying the AOLP in schools and public  
documents. No arguing there. Case closed. I did not read this thing.  
My bad.
However this is not a decree & the govt is not a scientific board  
(and no qualified independent body has reviewed -- to my knowledge &  
I may be wrong again -- the said word database). But since I have no  
formal Law training I will not press this matter further (other than  
just stating that under Portuguese law this govt resolution could  
easily impeached -- it violates several legal procedures and  
circumvents the exclusive role & mandate of the Academy). Had the  
govt done its homework via its language-consultants they would have  
noticed (one hopes) that the VOP lacks several important attributes  
in order to be considered a bona fide reference tool.
Bottom-line: there is official governmental support for the VOP tool.  
It is unfortunate but it what it is. :(
Regards. - A. 
  


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