Reminder: Ulster Scots

[CE Whitehead]

Hi, Caoimhin, Doug, all:
Perhaps a comment would be in order? 
 
Caoimhin O Donnaile caoimhin at smo.uhi.ac.uk 
Sun Mar 28 03:39:00 CEST 2010 

> Doug said:
>> If this is an orthography, Michael's submission should be fine as is. 
>> If it is a dialect, the submission (including the record with its 
>> Description field) should be amended to say so.  And if it is a 
>> language, this request should be taken to ISO 639-3/RA.
> I think that everyone agrees that Ulster Scots is a dialect of
> Scots, and not a separate language from the Scots spoken in Scotland.
> The spelling of Scots, both in Ulster and in Scotland, has varied
> widely.  One of the controversies has been whether to use older
> spellings (e.g. "heart") which may mislead modern speakers into 
> mispronouncing a word like the similarly spelt English word, or to
> use more popular recent spellings which indicate the pronounciation
> more clearly to modern speakers (e.g. "hairt").  Philip Robinson's 1997 
> book introduces a standardisation:
> http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.ulsterscotsagency.com/LOW_spellingandpronunciation.asp
> I would guess from the registration form:
> http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/ietf-languages/2010-March/010213.html
> that Michael mainly intended "sco-ulster" to refer to the orthographic
> standardisation of Philip Robinson's book(?).  My worry would be that
> a tag with the name "sco-ulster" would tend to be used by people to 
> refer to the Ulster dialect of Scots whatever the spelling, rather than 
> being used to refer to the orthographic standardisation of Philip
> Robinson's book whatever the dialect as Michael perhaps intended.
This would be the thing to put in a comment.
> I am not any expert on Scots, though.
> Caoimhín

Doug Ewell doug at ewellic.org 
Sat Mar 27 19:41:42 CET 2010 

> If this is an orthography, Michael's submission should be fine as is. 
> If it is a dialect, the submission (including the record with its 
> Description field) should be amended to say so.  And if it is a 
> language, this request should be taken to ISO 639-3/RA.
+1.
Best,
C. E. Whitehead
cewcathar at hotmail.com
 		 	   		  
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