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<BR> <BR>Hi, Caoimhin, Doug, all:<BR>Perhaps a comment would be in order? <BR> <BR>Caoimhin O Donnaile caoimhin at smo.uhi.ac.uk <BR>Sun Mar 28 03:39:00 CEST 2010 <BR><BR>> Doug said:<BR>>> If this is an orthography, Michael's submission should be fine as is. <BR>>> If it is a dialect, the submission (including the record with its <BR>>> Description field) should be amended to say so. And if it is a <BR>>> language, this request should be taken to ISO 639-3/RA.<BR>> I think that everyone agrees that Ulster Scots is a dialect of<BR>> Scots, and not a separate language from the Scots spoken in Scotland.<BR>> The spelling of Scots, both in Ulster and in Scotland, has varied<BR>> widely. One of the controversies has been whether to use older<BR>> spellings (e.g. "heart") which may mislead modern speakers into <BR>> mispronouncing a word like the similarly spelt English word, or to<BR>> use more popular recent spellings which indicate the pronounciation<BR>> more clearly to modern speakers (e.g. "hairt"). Philip Robinson's 1997 <BR>> book introduces a standardisation:<BR>> <A href="http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.ulsterscotsagency.com/LOW_spellingandpronunciation.asp">http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.ulsterscotsagency.com/LOW_spellingandpronunciation.asp</A><BR>> I would guess from the registration form:<BR>> <A href="http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/ietf-languages/2010-March/010213.html">http://www.alvestrand.no/pipermail/ietf-languages/2010-March/010213.html</A><BR>> that Michael mainly intended "sco-ulster" to refer to the orthographic<BR>> standardisation of Philip Robinson's book(?). My worry would be that<BR>> a tag with the name "sco-ulster" would tend to be used by people to <BR>> refer to the Ulster dialect of Scots whatever the spelling, rather than <BR>> being used to refer to the orthographic standardisation of Philip<BR>> Robinson's book whatever the dialect as Michael perhaps intended.<BR>This would be the thing to put in a comment.<BR>> I am not any expert on Scots, though.<BR>> Caoimhín<BR><BR>Doug Ewell doug at ewellic.org <BR>Sat Mar 27 19:41:42 CET 2010 <BR><BR>> If this is an orthography, Michael's submission should be fine as is. <BR>> If it is a dialect, the submission (including the record with its <BR>> Description field) should be amended to say so. And if it is a <BR>> language, this request should be taken to ISO 639-3/RA.<BR>+1.<BR>Best,<BR>C. E. Whitehead<BR><A href="mailto:cewcathar@hotmail.com">cewcathar@hotmail.com</A><BR> </body>
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