Missing subtags 003 and 172

Mark Davis ☕ mark at macchiato.com
Fri Jul 30 22:00:57 CEST 2010

Let me go back to the CLDR committee on 172; it may be that we can deprecate
that one in CLDR.

003, on the other hand, is important.


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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:52, Doug Ewell <doug at ewellic.org> wrote:

> Kent Karlsson <kent dot karlsson14 at telia dot com> wrote:
> > As far as I can tell, Mark is right here. Note that the 172 code was not
> > created purely for statistical purposes,
> > but is an actual region (even if somewhat unstable). This is distinct
> from
> > the codes 199, 432, 722, 778.
> But it's categorized with the "Small island developing States" class of
> code elements.  As soon as we start trying to divine the UNSD's intent
> here instead of reading their categories, the gates are wide open.
> > This is a purely corrective action w.r.t. the rules in the RFC, and the
> > question of whether these
> > codes are useful for language tagging is at this point irrelevant. For
> that
> > matter, one may wonder
> > how the code 001 (World) is useful in language tagging...
> Mark articulated a good use case for 001 back when we first starting
> talking about M.49.  "fr-001" explicitly means "French as used anywhere
> in the world," that is, internationally acceptable French, as opposed to
> simply "fr" which leaves it unspecified whether the French thus tagged
> is acceptable in, say, Canada.
> This is also the justification for the pending "classical Sanskrit"
> variant; it makes the "classical" qualifier explicit instead of
> implicit, in those (perhaps rare) cases where that is important.
> By contrast, what does "language X as used in the CIS" tell anyone, for
> any language X, in any geographical or other context, that either a more
> specific tag like "xx-KZ" or a less specific tag like "xx" would not
> already cover?  That is my second complaint against 172, the first being
> that UNSD categorizes it as an economic grouping.
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