Mismatch between ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-3

Mark Davis ☕ mark at macchiato.com
Wed Feb 17 23:27:08 CET 2010


Thanks for the very speedy reply. Do you have a sense of when
http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/iso-639-3_xxxxxxxx.tab will be updated?

Mark

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 14:10, ISO639-3 <ISO639-3 at sil.org> wrote:

>  Mark,
>
>
>
> [scr] and [scc] have been deprecated (I think that is the proper term) now
> in Part 2. I thought I had removed them from the published tables.
>
> There is now no distinct Part 2B identifier in these two cases. There is
> now only the one identifier for each.
>
>
>
> Thank you for bringing it to light.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joan Spanne
>
> SIL International
>
> ISO 639-3 Registration Authority
>
> iso639-3 at sil.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no [mailto:
> ietf-languages-bounces at alvestrand.no] *On Behalf Of *Mark Davis ?
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2010 3:31 PM
> *To:* ietf-languages at iana.org; ISO639-3 at sil.org; iso639-2 at loc.gov
> *Subject:* Mismatch between ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-3
>
>
>
> There is a discrepancy between ISO 639-2 and ISO 639-3 for certain
> three-letter codes. In particular, the bibliographic codes for Croatian
> and Serbian are  hrv and srp respectively in ISO 639-2, whereas ISO 639-3
> has them as scr and scc respectively. (There is also a mismatch in the
> '3-letter code' for "sh", but that is less important.)
>
>
>
> My question is: which one should we believe: ISO 639-2 or ISO 639-3?
>
>
>
> *Background*
>
>
> For ISO 639-3, we have the following:
>
>
> http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/iso-639-3_20100202.tab
>
>
>
> *Id*
>
> *Part2B*
>
> *Part2T*
>
> *Part1*
>
> *Scope*
>
> *Language_Type*
>
> *Ref_Name*
>
> *Comment*
>
> hrv
>
> scr
>
> hrv
>
> hr
>
> I
>
> L
>
> Croatian
>
> srp
>
> scc
>
> srp
>
> sr
>
> I
>
> L
>
> Serbian
>
> hbs
>
> sh
>
> M
>
> L
>
> Serbo-Croatian
>
> Code element for 639-1 has been deprecated
>
>
>
> On the other hand, we find the following in
> http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php
> which matches http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/ISO-639-2_utf-8.txt
>
>
>
> *O 639-2 Code*
>
> *ISO 639-1 Code*
>
> *English name of Language*
>
> *French name of Language*
>
> ...
>
> hrv
>
> hr
>
> Croatian
>
> croate
>
> ...
>
> srp
>
> sr
>
> Serbian
>
> serbe
>
> ...
>
>
>
> Differences between B and T are indicated in the first column, where they
> exist, such as:
>
>
>
> wel (B)
> cym (T)
>
> cy
>
> Welsh
>
> gallois
>
>
>
> If there are no such differences, then B and T are the same. So this says
> that the B forms are hrv and srp respectively, whereas ISO 639-3 has them as
> scr and scc respectively.
>
>
>
> For ISO 639-2, "sh" is in a different file (there doesn't seem to be a
> machine-readable form).
>
>
>
> http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_changes.php
>
>
>
> [-sh]
>
> (none)
>
> Serbo-Croatian
>
> serbo-croate
>
> 2000-02-18
>
> Dep
>
> This code was deprecated...
>
>
>
> In this case, the 3-letter code is indicated as none, while ISO 639-3 has
> it as hbs. This is not as problematic, because 'sh' has a funny status in
> 639-3.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
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