Anomaly in upcoming registry

Mark Davis ⌛ mark at
Thu Jul 9 00:58:12 CEST 2009

There are two reasons for having a non-deprecated sh. First, the equivalent
hbs is in ISO 639-3, which we are taking as a basis for our expansion in
many ways. Having that one macrolanguage be deprecated is just anomalous.

Second, there is a real use case. According to a good deal of feedback from
native speakers in Google, what we call Serbian, Croatian, and Bosnian are
really dialects of the one language -- according to the criteria of mutual
comprehension. They are really just like the situation with "mo" and "ro".
Had we had BCP 47 some time ago (and the right country boundaries), they
would have been sh-RS (or maybe sh-Cyrl), sh-BA, sh-HR. Having "sh" as a
macrolanguage recognizes that situation, and gives us a neutral general code
to express the situation.


On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 05:09, Doug Ewell <doug at> wrote:

> Lang Gérard <gerard dot lang at insee dot fr> wrote:
> > So that my text should be completed by the adjunction of a new point:
> >
> > "12-On 2009-03-03, ISO 639/RA-JAC changed the language names
> > concerning 42 alpha-3 collective language ISO 639-2 code elements,  so
> > that:
> > -"ine/ine" that was an initial code element of ISO 639-2 (1998)
> > changed its collective language name from "Indo-European (Others)/
> > indo-europennes, autres langues" to "Indo-European, languages/
> > indo-europennes, langues";
> > -"sla/sla" that was an initial code element of ISO 639-2 (1998)
> > changed its collective language name from "Slavic (Other)/ slaves,
> > autres langues" to "Slavic languages/ slaves, langues".
> But I don't see what this has to do with whether "sh" and/or "hbs"
> should be withdrawn from any part of ISO 639, or deprecated in the
> Registry.
> --
> Doug Ewell  *  Thornton, Colorado, USA  *  RFC 4645  *  UTN #14
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